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    “My career hasn't been an overnight success - it's been a slow, slow climb. I've been here 19 years and seen lots of other people move here and have a huge hit and they're off and running with their career. It might not last very long, but I’ve seen a lot of people with that perceived success, and it often doesn’t have much to do with talent. At this point I'm OK with that, as I think there are so many intangible elements involved with something that becomes a hit record, movie or book, and it plugs into some sort of collective mythology where people can see themselves in the song or movie - and that's something you can't control. You just have to get lucky with that. There's plenty of producers whose work I really admire and am influenced by, who don’t approach it as I do and aren't even capable of approaching it as I do. I'm very hands-on. Some of the best records are made by guys who didn't play any instruments and don’t even know how to operate the equipment, they just use their objectivity and their ears. I'm a huge fan of Nellee Hooper - he just listens to stuff apparently. I’m a huge fan of Rick Rubin. Rubin can't play an A chord on a guitar, can't plug a mic in - he just knows if it's right or not. He approaches it completely differently to me. But at the end of the day, there's something really great going on. I realise that talent is a hard thing to quantify. What is talent - playing an instrument, writing a song? Some of the best musicians are horrible songwriters - some of the best songwriters are horrible musicians. It manifests completely differently. When things take off, there's so much luck involved. Haydn said the invention of a simple melody is a work of genius. I stand behind that. To do simple at a level of excellence is the hardest thing in the world to do. To nail simplicity and to have it believable - does that take a lot of talent? I don't know. “
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